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What is a foul?

Postby MKDF » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:42 am

Strange how the laws of the game have been reinterpreted in recent years.

For a number of years, it has been OK for defenders to jostle attackers when receiving a long goal kick.

Yesterday was a good example of a new trend where it is OK for an attacker to climb all over a defender to head a corner. Clarke was all over wootton for their equaliser ( elbows extended on his shoulder). Not long ago that would’ve been disallowed.

Is it just that refs aren’t spotting it? Or is it that they are allowing all but the worst examples (eg full arm extension on the shoulders)? I reckon the latter.

If you think about it, it is as much cheating as a dive in the penalty area.

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Re: What is a foul?

Postby Furzdonny » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:51 am

I can't see it myself. Wootton didn't even complain.
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Re: What is a foul?

Postby MKDF » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:08 am

It was right in front of me. The highlights confirm he was already fully climbing on wootton's shoulder while the ball was only halfway through its flight. No way anyone can jump that early and remain in the air.

The fact that Wooton didn't complain supports the question. No chance of getting the decision overturned.

As for what defenders can do about it, maybe drop the shoulder so the attacker is unbalanced? Would have to have lightening reactions, plus the defender is also unbalanced and in no position to attack the ball.

Comes back to the officiating. Strictly, that goal should not have stood.
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Re: What is a foul?

Postby Furzdonny » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:24 am

Looking at the video again, you have a point.

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What can he do about it? Perhaps change his angle and not provide his back to climb on. I noticed that Cisse was giving his centre half too much space. We need to be less nice facing corners and free kicks.
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Re: What is a foul?

Postby MKDF » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:40 am

One for the technical specialists to answer.

While we’re on the technical aspects of the game, their second goal might not have nutmegged Nicholls if he’d spread himself in the old fashioned way when coming for the ball.

He came upright with legs apart.

It’s down to pushing the percentages in your favour. We’ve still some way to go on that.
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Re: What is a foul?

Postby ACDon » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:56 am

I must admit, I thought at the time that there was an element of climbing in the Pompey equaliser but largely due to the player reaction (or lack of it from our players) assumed it was all legit. The Referee seemed very lenient yesterday and it helped Pompey more than us, their number 20 (Thompson) could have been yellow carded about 6 times before he finally got a yellow in the last few minutes of the game. Consistency with Referee's has always been an issue and always will be.

Did anyone else notice Winkie running on the pitch at the final whistle and applauding the officials in a very sarcastic manner, not sure if he will be in hot water over that, but I suppose providing he kept his mouth shut there isn't much wrong with his actions.
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Re: What is a foul?

Postby Furzdonny » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:58 am

MKDF wrote: He came upright with legs apart.


I believe the Pompey keeper kept his legs together against Ugbo, but he had more time to set himself (although didn't Lee get nutmegged for the Coventry goal) and Lee did make some good saves in the match.
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Re: What is a foul?

Postby Furzdonny » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:59 am

ACDon wrote:Did anyone else notice Winkie running on the pitch at the final whistle and applauding the officials in a very sarcastic manner, not sure if he will be in hot water over that, but I suppose providing he kept his mouth shut there isn't much wrong with his actions.


Yes I did see it. Can the club we fined for that if reported?
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Re: What is a foul?

Postby MKDF » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:07 am

Furzdonny wrote:
MKDF wrote: He came upright with legs apart.


Lee did make some good saves in the match.


He did. I didn't mean my comment to sound like blame. I was just highlighting the marginal gains approach to improvement.
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Re: What is a foul?

Postby Furzdonny » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:11 am

MKDF wrote:
Furzdonny wrote:
MKDF wrote: He came upright with legs apart.


Lee did make some good saves in the match.


He did. I didn't mean my comment to sound like blame. I was just highlighting the marginal gains approach to improvement.


I guessed that MKDF. I just thought it needed saying in case I was being too negative.
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